Let them handle the vac for a few minutes so they see the mess it makes.

My old man ran a shop for 30 years and he'd say the exact opposite - you gotta lean into the cut with some pressure or you'll just wander all over the plate. I spent months unlearning that "let the torch do the work" crap because my tips kept dragging and gouging the metal when I'd ease off too much.

Welcome to the club, you earned your DIY stripes.

Different forums reward totally different kinds of patience - hype trains test your nerves every minute, while deep research tests your conviction over months. If you can handle the slow burn of reading financial statements instead of chasing the next rocket, you're probably building a skill that actually pays off long term. Isn't the real question just which kind of discomfort you're willing to sit with?

Buddy of mine lost three hens mocking his own dad for using heat lamps.