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Re: challange to overuse of "class struggle" applied to state

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Posted by ForDemocracy on June 24, 2009 at 07:59:48:

In Reply to: challange to overuse of "class struggle" applied to state posted by davidasearles@yahoo.com on June 20, 2009 at 12:04:01:

The 'two classes' approach to understanding the economic system we live under, while often a turn-off to the newly-emerging plethora of new critics of Capitalism and a 19thc. cliche, it seems the best right now. But I'm open!

As Democratic Socialists, we are laboring under so many constraints, many due to the 'ownership of the language' also...by the ruling class: The Capitalists. So, we are certainly 'struggling' against great forces & odds. But it will get easier as the system's 'veils of illusion' (credit debt, mortgage debt, job disappearance & consequent inability to buy back-even under the yoke of illusury 'credit finance'....peons of the 21st Century...)fall away.

Til then, finding terms, ways to encourage real analysis, real trust in our own inherent ability to see the truth hidden by the language we have been brainwashed into accepting-as-truth, we will 'struggle'.... one 'class' against another. Cliches unfortunately are mistaken for lies. Sometimes they get to be cliches because they just happen to be true.
By the way! Clicked onto your 'hang-out place' (DeLeonism) and very much want to join...Can you
please tell me how? DeLeon, the TRUE 'MYSTERY MAN of AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST HISTORY' proposed the first rational, historically-fitting concept of 'Industrial Unionism'. The PFANS site 'tweeks up' his concept by making it an all-inclusive, without gender-age-work bias and using the latest technology to create a living 21st C. democracy. (Like all founding thinkers, while he opened the way to a worker-based 'freeman's' society, his break-thru work-based
concept no longer represents the desires & needs of our 21st C. But like all great ideas, they lead to new advancements.)So, briefly, how do I join?
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